Using Digital and Analog Servos with Pixahawk

With no screw or glue or constant pressure to hold the vane on the servo shaft/horn (sorry I don’t know the exact engineering word, I may know them in French) ? I don’t want to hinder your creativity, and maybe I misunderstood smthing, but that seems quite optimistic.

Ey no any advice is welcomed! Ill get a pic real quick of how it look connected now

This is how we intend it to connect. The red parts are the screws that come from the servo. But you are right it does seem unstable

yeah, if nothing else than the shaft’s friction hold’s it, i.e. no screw between the black and white pieces, your better screw it (pun intended).

Lmao man i wish i met you earlier, this is for a uni project report due in 5 days. But thanks, eish Il try to think of someway to salvage it

The other route i wanted to try was to get a long enough black screw and slot it through the vane and into the servo

But i could not find longer length 1.5mm screws :frowning:

You either need sleep or I missed something. Why are you not screwing the vane on the servo shaft AND THEN the flaps on the vane ?

Anyway I’m going to sleep.

Ey i could use some sleep ngl.Ey thats what i thought at first, but if you check the upper blue image, the vanes need to be placed inside the tube. So like if you screw the horn onto the servo first, you wont be able to screw the horn onto the vane within the tube from the interior.

oh yeah, I get it. Well, good luck with that. Pro tip : when you can’t afford a redesign, glue is your friend not screw.

Thats actually what it will probably come to lol or maybe ill think of a way to make a coupler-esque feature. I wanted it to be able to be capable of disassembly so students can interact with it. Thanks for the advice though, Il mention you to my supervisors. Btw nice yuri camp profile picture

Yeah, I also wanted mine to be disassembled easily, but zip ties and glues are just too convenient to quickly explore and prototype. I published all my .stl but my design is hard to reproduce because it’s MY prototype. The design here SingleCopter of Benjamin Prescher on Ardupilot is truly a level above, and if it works well with ardu it could help the small single copter community here.

And please use my online presence as you wish. As long as people are asking interesting questions while looking for answers themselves and not just waiting for me to build their copter, I’ll surely help them (if I don’t miss their posts/messages).

PS : Gotta spread comfyness and the secret society blanket wherever I can.

I just wanted to point out that there are lots of different kinds of digital servos. I think it’s safe to say all hobby servos can receive a 50Hz control pulse. Some digital servos can receive much faster updates. Often the tail rotor of a helicopter will use a digital servo combined with a gyro which drives the servo much faster than 50Hz. These types of servos have much faster update speeds compared with other hobby servos. Many of these fast servos can’t be powered with 6V like other servos. The fast servos I use with my helicopter come with a 5V regulator to make sure the voltage isn’t too high. These fast servos need a corresponding fast drive signal. I think most flight controllers use the standard 50Hz signal to control servos. It’s possible this sort of thing can be configured in the flight controller. I know some ESCs can use fast protocols and many flight controllers can use these faster protocols so maybe flight controllers can also drive high speed servos faster than the standard 50Hz signal.

Analog servos generally have torque proportional to how far the current position is from the target position. If an analog servo only needs to move a small amount, it won’t use as much torque as if it has to move a large amount. Digital servos generally produce full torque for all movements. This also means digital servos generally use more power than analog servos.

Some digital servos have all sorts of extra features. Some can be assigned ID numbers and addressed with a SBus data line. These SBus servos can share a common data line.

I’m new to ArduPilot but I’ve used a lot of servos. Here’s a link to a hexapod which uses 24 servos.

BTW, very cool project. I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s replies.

Thank you for the detailed response! I think we are getting an ESC donated that can step down the voltage to between 5-6V. That naturally timed blinking robot is amazing!

I would like to ask a question that has been troubling me about digital servos, sorry if its basic but i dont seem to grasp it. I tried asking on the arduino forum but was confused by the response. I had interpreted the difference between a digital servo and analog servo as : Both receive the same command signal from a receiver or arduino to change position. But a digital servo can output pulses that can control its servo motor at a higher frequency and change positions faster

The reply i got was admittedly confusing on my end. I read this article before asking that question The Difference between Analog and Digital RC Servos - (radiocontrolinfo.com)

Thanks man :+1: Il post some pictures if my professor allows it lol and try to contribute to the single copter community too!

I really like the reply by StefanL38. I’ve interacted that user on other forums and he has always provided great information.

The “difference” diagram you posted is what is happening inside the servo. The internal electronics of a digital servo drives the motor with a higher frequency PWM signal. The internal frequency of an analog signal is the same as the 50Hz control frequency. The diagram shows the “kind 2” difference described by Stefan.

As Stephan said, if you don’t need real high performance, the standard 50Hz signal is fine. If you need higher performance, you’ll need to look at the specific servo’s datasheet to learn what sort of frequency it can handle. I don’t think there’s a standard “digital servo frequency”. You’ll need to find out from the servo manufacture how to take advantage of the specific digital servo’s unique features.

Edit: I should add than many digital servos don’t have unique features. They just use a microcontroller internally so small servo changes still maintain full torque. I think most digital servos don’t have extra features beyond the higher frequency internal motor drivers. Most digital servos should be driven the same as analog servos. They’ll just perform better (and use more power).

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He did reply to alot of me questions!

Ah yes it seems I posted signal inside the servo and not that sent to it by a receiver/arduino

Okay thanks! that power consumption is a bridge Il cross in due time lol.

I actually came across a thread just now that gave an explanation of the differences btw

That’s another good description.

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It really is! Thanks for the advice though :+1: