Great advice, you have given me a great advice, i have little doubts but, like i have the max volts of my single i.e is 0.57volts and it’s rated 4.5 wattage i mean it’s claimed, these are polycrystalline cells not flexible, 5 bus bar hoe could i incorporate these cells, most of the guides are using sunpower c 60 cells and genasun mppt, i know for 12 volt motors i would require something like 14 to 18 volts from my array that I’ll create, any guidance on how to connect the cells,( i mean series parallel connections ). Is it possible to use brushless geared motors to fly it i know it’s whole other level doubt, but just curious, cause i am new to this whole solar soaring thing
I have no idea to be frank, i need as less as possible because the size of cells is little bit on bigger side it’s about 15x15 cm so the chord is increasing the wing span is increasing if i go with only series connection, atleast 25 to 30 are required then and my wingspan would significantly increase i want it to be under 8 ft around that range 8 is also too high but max i guess, these all constraints are due budget only. Quite frankly in my country hobby products are little bit on expensive side, by this if i go have to adjust the Aspect ratio also so getting too much confused.
As I said before we need more information from yourside abaout your plane and project.
In pprincip you can use either brushed or brushles motors. This has nothing to de with the DC source only with the kind of ESC.
The cells need to be connected in series as you need much higer voltage on the solarpanel as battery voltage. 5 bus bars ar no problem, these can directly connect from one cell to the next or
If iI look to the genasun mppt. This is specified for LiFePo cells but not for Lipos or LiIon. So for this we have to look a little deeper in.
Please provide datasheets or links of the components (cells, charger, motor) you want to use.
And I said before we need an estimation of the power you need to fly your plane.
yes got that, first ill do that only, i am avioding to use the genasun mppt, any alternate method that is there for the battery to be charged while flying and also powering the motor, i am not getting that part, how to achive it. the constraint i am taking are weight to be less than 2.5 kg overall
charging battery and powering motor at the same time is simple as the charger and the Motor / ESC are connected in parallel to the battery. So if the power from the Charger / Solar panel is grater than the power used by the ESC / Motor the battery will be charged. In the other case if power from the Charger / Solar panel is less than the power used by the ESC / Motor the battery will be discharged.
Any suggestions on charge controller for solar panels and the battery, what type of charge controller could be used ? I don’t want to use mppt, could a system with relay board be made. Is there any other solutions? For it
As I told you before you can either use a MPPT charger or a PWM charger.
The PWM charger is basically a switch, a semiconductor relay, a solid state relay, which is connected the solarpanel to the battery as long as the battery voltage is less than the absorbtion voltage. If the battery voltage rises to the absorbtion voltage the charger opens the contact and closed it again with a small hysteresis. This kind of regulator is not optimal under all solar conditions but it will work if you are using your plane moreless under the same sunny conditions.
But a real mechanical relay is not recommended.
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Thinking to use
This mppt module
These are the cells i have i guess as the supplier didn’t mention about the data sheet though the power range is 4.5watt
Please only use these motors if you have the means to not only balance the props, but the motors as well. They are cheap for a reason and come horribly unbalanced from the factory and cause terrible vibrations if left untreated. And yes, I speak from experience 
Although it may be not as bad in a plane as it is in a multirotor…
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I have a little doubt if all this is working to gether as you don’t show your overall power requirements and elctrical design.
The shown motor is taking 20+ A while the converter can deliver max 5 A
So far I see the converter is working with constant current mode. If this is the only mode it will kil the battery. Constant current is good if the battery is not nearly full charged. If the battery is fully charged constant voltage must be used together with balancing of cells.
As the converter is a buck converter the voltage of the solar generator must be higher than battery voltage. This is possible by serial connection of the cells. The current of the generator can be up to 8.7 A. Is the converter working with this?
So just with this small informations without any exact datasheets I am not able to evaluate this all.
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Agree with Jan. “generic” is the key phrase in your link. These are probably the same motors sold by the likes of RC Timer and others and they are very poor quality.
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I am thinking of making it a rechargeable system, this module would be connected to thhe solar panel input and then will be connected to a 3s lithium ion cells, and the motor would be connected in parrallel, and i am hoping that this system would recharge the batteries while the glider/ aircraft is in its crusie phase as the cruise power requirements for an aircraft are lesser, i am new to this part so i might be very wrong, the panels i am getting the voltage readings but i don’t get how to measure its current. any suggestions on this ideation, and as motors, there are very less motors avalible in my region, i thought this one is good as it is of a lower kv value, as the weight of whole uav i am trying to keep it under 2.5 kg, so motor selection for that is a little bit difficult
Did you ever built a electric powered RC plane by your own.
I am missing your clear approach to such a development. Before you select a motor you need to know how much power for your plane is needed. So you must have a first idea of size, weight, wing size, wing profile etc.
Selecting a motor just on a kV value will not work as this value only shows the turning rate per Volt. But not the power.
Also the power of the solar cells you can evaluate from its datasheet but not only from some simple shopinformation
Are you talking about regeneration power from the motor? It’s not clear what you are describing.
Use search here on the forum for “solar rc plane” and read about what it takes to do it right.
Well I haven’t build a rc aircraft, but i have built quadcopter and hexacopter, size is needed to be decided before, i was considering around 8 to 9ft span with a rectangle wing of chord 40 cm as it would accommodate 15cm cells in tandem method, power required I haven’t done yet
I feared this honest answer. Before you dare to try out a solar airplane, you should first look into the general construction of RC airplanes. Multicopters are something completely different than aerodynamically flying aircraft. And in order to successfully get a solar plane into the air, the actual aircraft has to be optimal. Designed for extremely low sinking in order to fly well horizontally with as little power as possible.
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Well then you are back to an MPPT. Seems you are going in circles.
Take @Juergen-Fahlbusch advice and build a simple plane and get it flying 1st. Hopefully you have not purchased anything.
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