H-Frame, 8 Motors Drone config, Request Tuning Support

Hi, i am working on a big drone that have an H-frame. The drone is a vtol but i am posting this question in Ardcopter page since i am in hover phase testing. This is my first time working with DroneCAN protocole so I appreciate your guidance and support.
Hardware units are: Cube Orange+, Here3+ GPS, and 8 Vertiq 330KV motors.

  • I would like to understand if the parameter setup similar to when we use ESC telemetry? I was flying quadcopters with ESCs AM32 and their setup was mainly from (servo_blh_xx) params. Should i configure them as if i have esc telemetry?
  • In terms of notch filtering, i used to depend on ESC Telemetry measurements. Is it the same case with DroneCAN ESCs?
  • Can I share with you a flight log and have some deeper ensights about my parameters? I am facing difficulties to tune this drone but i have I still have some hardware issues that i need to fix first. I would be grateful if at least you check my parameters config look good enough as a start.

Thank you in advance!

I don’t think so. I have seen logs from CAN ESC craft and you just get it. I suppose you have seen the Wiki page:
Drone CAN ESC’s

Yes I have followed this config. And in my logs i can recieve the data related to rpm, temp, etc.

  • Do you have any comments about harmonic notch filtering setup?
  • Is it okay for you to take a look on these logs and give some insights about what mistakes I have? The drone is losing altitude immediatly whenever i command any attitude input.
  • I am trying to tune the drone but I never succeed achieving a better behavior. The drone is flyable and stable but not for auto missions.

What i dont get for example, which also i have never seen before - such fluctuations


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Having nothing to do with the post title, start a new targeted one.

You’re right sorry. I have changed the title so that i dont create a new post

Check for motor output oscillation

what do you suggest to start with first?
I have no hot motor temp, also no hot escs. I am not sure of Audible vibrations/oscillations (honestly i dont know how can i test such thing for a big drone) and its not hard to control.

I can observe some shaking but cant tell if this is really the main issue.

Do you think lua script quick tuning for vtol would give me a better start?

The oscillations are very clear in the graph in blue. Start by reducing the roll PIDs.

But as a methodic person, I of course recommend start using the AMC form step 02 without skipping any steps. But you are free not to do so.

This might be a stupid question.. What do you mean by AMC form?
I never worked with such drone size so I am bit lost. Also never faced such oscillations - I am not sure if its coming from structure or its just the controller

Read the overview (section 1) of the AMC website

I see you are referring to your tool. Is it applicable as well for a vtol around 25 Kg.? Do you have in the database PIDs for H-Frame?

It has been used successfully in drones raging from 600g to 350Kg.
Yes, it will work fine with 25Kg.

The tool is not a single-button-press-and-it-fixes-all-your-problems-tool !
It will not change any parameter behind your back. It is a what-you-see-is-what-gets-modified tool. You are 100% in control of the changes. You are required to read instructions and change parameter values.
If that is not your cup-of-tea, do not use it.

I asked because I never used the tool:)
I was seeking for more insights from this community as you have more experience and knowledge rather than keep diggimg around and getting more lost.
I will give the tool a shot and hopefully it is a controller issue and not structure. In case i got stuck with the process using your tool, would you mind asking?

Sure, if you have questions ask, but first:

To help yourself, read the extensive documentation:

To get help from others on how to use the software (in order of preference):

I appreciate your time and guidance!