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UTC1102 - pre-agenda
- parameter reset bug likely found and fixed
- Floating CS line during bootloader may be confusing RAMTRON to the point it is resetting
- Timezone change - well done on turning up at the right time if you did!
UTC1103 - more parameter reset issues
- One user could reproduce reliably, this was key to finding and fixing the issue
- Tridge removed all ability to write to the FRAM and the FRAM was still reset
- Bootloader doesn’t initialise the chip-select pin
- A test bootloader which does pin CS high seems to fix the issue for the user
- Anybody suffering from this problem should update their bootloader
- More robustness fixes will probably be included
- Bootloader updates are a bit of a pain
- And there’s a chance the board will be bricked until DFU mode is entered
- No easy way to get to DFU pin on Cube carrier boards
- Tridge needs to split out just the updated bootloader patch and ask the user to test it
- Firmware update would leave you in the bootloader for quite some time so would increase likelihood of parameter erase
- User needs to back and forth a bit to ensure his setup can still reproduce when put in a bad state
- NuttX bootloader didn’t initialise the CS pins either
- Noise on SPI bus causing corruption?!
- Complicated pattern of bits required?
- Only first part of FRAM gets corrupted
- Writes left enabled on reset?
- Maybe disable after every write?
- Maybe other sensors could get into a bad state based on noise on SPI bus?
- Other pins pin high or low?
- I2c should have hardware pullups already
- Uart lines - less obvious and much less likely to generate correct bits to stuff things up
- MP’s firmware upgrade procedure -> augment
- Console printfs really confuses MissionPlanner’s mavlink parser
- Hardware pullups on SPI?
- Tridge doesn’t think there are any
- PK says mRo boards don’t
- Maybe something to do in the future
UTC1112 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13603
- Randy flight tested it
- Paul’s still poking at it
- Tridge talked with Paul about it
- Requested logging changes
- Log_Write being used
- And using radians
- Commit history needs some help
- Paul’s thinking he’ll port it back to EKF2 soonish
- Not ready for merging ATM
- Reminder: put compass back into correct orientation before flying code not incorporating these changes.
UTC1127 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/12887
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AP_Scripting add button binding
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A few small changes to make
UTC1130 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13658
- Profileds
- Data and clock on same pin
- Set servooutput to profiledclock
- Specify data pin as you would normally
- Finds clock pins in same group
- Rcoutput banner still work?
- Peter_Hall: RCOut: PWM:1-8 ProfiLED:9-12 NeoP:13-14
- merged!
UTC1132 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13208
- Add mission rewind
- Do-set the rewind distance
- https://github.com/ArduPilot/mavlink/pull/130
- Mavlink changes merged
- Will need to fix the git hash in master
- Can be merged once the mavlink commit is corrected
- Update_exit_position doesn’t check return of ahrs-get-position
UTC1140 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13762
- Merged!
UTC1143 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13743
- Merged
- AP_HAL_Linux issues
UTC1145 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13737
- Would want to get a comment from MO on this one
- Our XML is terrible
- The JSON one is pretty nice
- Need MO’s comment on this one
- How and why is this expected to be used?
UTC1148 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13729
- Merged
- If it has to be done again we should do it more generally
UTC1150 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/issues/13728
- Peter to do a patch
UTC1154 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13727
- Peter will be doing tests against QGC to find why the bit isn’t being set
UTC1154 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13718
- Writing out first word could be hazardous
- Not worth the risk for the convenience
UTC1159 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13661
- Merged!
UTC0000 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13431
- Holding off on structural changes for a few weeks until 4.0 is settled
- Stabilising for 4.1
- Make an issue? Project? Tag?
- Have to be careful not to merge too much stuff if we’re not merging this one as it will conflict with everything
- [11:06 AM] (Channel) RM: Here is the issue to capture delayed PRs: https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/issues/13773
UTC0001 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13742
- RPM API to be scripting friendly
- Adds vibration
- Provides sample script for quadplane failsafe where you lose the forward engine
- It will take a predefined set of actions
- Including gliding home
- Will trigger qland if too low or at home
- Autonomous failsafe for quadplanes
- ROMFS scripts are coming for this sort of thing
- Robustness in scripting?
- Exception handling for scripting in scripting?
- Are they available?
- Yes
- Pcalls
- Running out of memory and taking too much time
- A lot of APIs return none which gets nul-punned push can cause exceptions if used in scripting
- [11:05 AM] (Channel) db: I’ve had plenty of issues with large lua scripts running out of ram
- [11:05 AM] (Channel) db: … it would be nice to have a lua call to tell me how much system ram is available.
- Losing your failsafe scripts are bad
- Put at top of script on-any-fault return a retry of some description
- Opt-in
- Return protected-of-update?
- Do a robust-call-checking mode for lua
- Can possibly do a command-line lint for lua scripts
- Need to generate a file telling the linter what new functions are and what’s been removed
UTC0012 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/13431
- 4.0.5 released:
- 4.0 would have a larger set of changes
- Parameter reset issue will be included, of course
- Some filtering parameters will be coming in on the PIDs
UTC0016 - https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/issues/12547
- Tfminiplus glitches on i2c
- No problem on serial
- Asking for a distance causes it to glitch
- 100Hz is bad
- 33Hz stops glitching
- Discussion on going
- Dual compasses order changing
- CAN comes up in different order
- Would be fixed with Sid’s changes
- Tridge has an order-by-node-number patch around somewhere
- No, that was Swoop’s airspeed sorting
- Compass-cal should fail because node ids do not match
- Not recommended to use dual CAN compasses on Copter right now
- Done from QGC is kakutef7 board is missing from manifest
- JW: kakuteF7 and kakuteF7 AIO are the same firmware
- Current sensor won’t work if you don’t have the AIO
- Apj board id could be wrong?
- Coming in as skyviper?
- How?
- Coming in as skyviper?
- QGC using board-id is correctly?
- Tridge will talk with Don on the matter
- Pass-through issues
- Peter can reproduce but hasn’t chased it down yet
- 13th channel on sbus popping up?
- RFD900 ppm pass-through
- Somewhere along the line the channels get shifted
- “Fairly often”
- Once every 30 minutes to an hour
- [11:33 AM] To Weekly devcall: @Randy it’s not regular according to uptime or something?
- [11:33 AM] (Channel) JW: I’ve seen this! We’ve decided the clock in the rfd900x is bad but maybe we came to the wrong conclusion.
- They’ve grounded until they can try the S.BUS firmware
- Not a txmod
- Ppm out on radio to radio
- Bug in rfd900x firmware for ppm?
- Extra-wide pulse would shift channels
- In the cold the channel values can drift?!
- Seen 20 microseconds
- Clocking on the little micro
- So maybe two issues?
- Ppm is unclean
- [11:37 AM] (Channel) davidbuzz: rfd900’s have temperature compensation that recalculates periodically.
- Need to make rfdesign aware of potential issue in ppm generation
- [11:38 AM] (Channel) RM: AP issue: https://github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/issues/13709
- Randy is on Seppo’s case now
- Josh will attach another log to the issue
- If this is truly a second case of the same issue a general warning may be called for as this is used on big heavy vehicles
- Could be capture or generation
- Buzz can chase up with rfdesign
- Should support srxl as well as s.bus or ppm
- More sanity checks in parser?
- If we add some then we may stop talking to some receivers
- We didn’t end up putting in the ignore-parity rc option
-
Quadcopter fly away
- Vibration failsafe activated
- Wasn’t the cause of the partial fly-away
- Matek405 board
- Vibes are high but not that high
- Paul thought EKF did the right thing
- Struggling with sensors?
- Vertical GPS velocity and z accel?
- Usually use dual IMU to do aliasing detection
- Average z acceleration deviates a long way from gravity when he starts to get into trouble
- High-freq vibes?
- Vibration failsafe should consider a throttle limit based on baro altitude?
- Vibration failsafe activated
- When climbing z-accel goes to average zero - that’s almost certainly aliasing or clipping
- Most likely aliasing
- Could this be board-specific in our code?
- Tridge can’t think of anything special
- Light boards can see this more
- Regular pixhawk on this frame showed very little vibration
- Consider tire weights on top of flight controller
- Increases mass, changes resonant frequency of flight controller
- Need it well below the sampling frequency
- Need to get alternate firmware for the internal-error-400 issue
UTC0049 - No Rover updates
UTC0100 - Close