MowStock 2025 - April 5-6, Church Point, LA

Rover/Mower/Drone Folks!

You are invited to the 3rd annual MowStock. All interested in autonomous Mowers/Rovers/Boats/Drones, etc. are invited. The main goals being to meet, compare ideas/best practices and share experiences with putting these autonomous contraptions together.

Everyone is encouraged to bring their own autonomous vehicle (running or project). We have ~100 acres of hay fields to play with so room to roam, fly and explore is not an issue. Will have our on-site RTK (via NTRIP) active and available for use by all. (Also have a small pond on the property for any floating Rovers).

Several folks from the Ardupilot Forums and YouTube fame will attend including Yuri Rage (https://www.youtube.com/@YurisHomebrewDIY) and Kenny Trussel (https://www.youtube.com/@KennyTrussell)).

Logistics:
Church Point is a small town about 20 miles NW of Lafayette, LA with no motels. However, Lafayette is a large metropolitan area about 30 minutes away with many motels and a large airport served by American, Delta and United and all major rental car companies.

We have a 2400’ grass airstrip onsite (71LA) and folks are welcome to fly-in. Please call before launching to confirm expected strip conditions. Bring your own tie-downs. KOPL and KLFT are both excellent hard surface options if we get serious rain.

RV’s are welcome onsite but please call for details.

If attending, please contact me so we can plan accordingly!

Onward!

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OMG, I would absolutely love to go and meet all of you and nerd out. If you show off some of your achievements, please take some videos. Here is my work in progress, https://youtube.com/shorts/XBVs-bLQMFM?si=DTi0-oGEuURa7nmv

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So buy a ticket. :slightly_smiling_face: Several major airlines fly into Lafayette and hotels abound. Good luck!

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I will be attending the meeting this year and bring my mower. It’s just a a mower that does a lot of mowing every year and i have made a few improvements since last year, including the ability to drive the mower manually with the original drive handles and with the flip of a switch go back to full auto.

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I’ll be there with mower in tow, working or not! :slight_smile:

Looking forward to seeing the mods!

Just giving this thread a bump for those possibly considering as it’s a month away. Looking forward to seeing new rovers!

Another bump from me! I’m half the world away, but attending something like that would be absolutely great. I’ve never dabbled in mowers, but i love the idea since they combine both a fun hobby and a real world need.
Looking forward to seeing some vids of the meet! Have a great time!

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I was hoping to come but probably won’t be able to due to work schedule. I have mower pulled apart and in the conversion process so will at least post pictures on the forum for feedback. Would love to see pictures from the event!

My schedule freed up as I’d hoped, and I should be able to make it for the first time since # 1.

Had the pleasure of spending an afternoon with the fellas in Church Point yesterday as well. Hope the mower tweaks were successful!

And they were. Still have a few oddities to work out but certainly getting better Yuri!

If anyone has or is considering building a rover, you really should consider making this event. Expect a gaggle of interesting machines and lots of experience on hand to work thru issues and get you going. Onward!

Countdown has begun so make your plans to attend! Bring your rover or just come hang out and see how others have done on their projects. You will learn something and have a blast. Onward!

This weekend! Make your plans to attend.

Discord thread here:

I got all setup on Discord but I guess need to get invited to join a group? I have an account and the app installed on my phone. When I get down there tomorrow, I’ll have to figure out how to use it. I head out in the morning.

Try this “invite” link to the ArduPilot server:

Well, I wish to Thank @Swebre2023 for hosting the event once again. I was a great time, even though it was a small group this year due to the weather. I think we worked on every single mower that was there. There were at least 4-5 RTK mowers there and about the same number of people. Two of the mowers had navigational tuning done to them. Both the mowers were mostly tuned by @Yuri_Rage and @ktrussell who really had those machines tracking tightly to the mowing plans. The rest of us learned from the masters about tuning. The last mower tuned was mine and they had it done in less than 5 minutes. I had just upgraded the firmware on the Orange cube from V4.3 to V4.7 and it required tuning, but it was minimal. Yuri and Steve Webre got the hall effect engine RPM sensor feed back loop working on Steve Webre’s mower to reduce forward travel speed when the mower gets into tall grass and the engine starts slowing down. That was a big success and is something that most of us need. I was able to show the drive-by-wire system that I had put on my mower to allow manual driving using the original drive handles and still be switched back to RTK mower operation. I think Bill’s mower just had some scripts installed and some testing done to insure proper operation (he wouldn’t let anyone touch his tuning (because it was tracking very well). There was also some Zoom communication and discussion with @ronzika who is working on a Mavproxy module designed to help ArduPilot Rover Mower users stay updated on their missions through Telegram notifications and two-way interaction through your phone.
There was a lot going on at MowStock and a great time was had by all.

Thanks again to Steve Webre, for making this event possible!

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A few additions from my own experience this weekend, along with some future project plans as discussed throughout:

Test and Tune Sessions
Test and tune sessions were very successful! @ktrussell’s machine is navigating a bit better, and I think we all learned a bit about tuning as that process unfolded. I think we all agree that mechanical linkage to a fluid coupling can create some struggles when trying to tune a controller that expects a nice, linear response.

@SJohnson’s machine is a testament to my previously stated observations that the PSC controller works VERY well so long as the underlying steering and speed tuning is well done - that upgrade from NAVL1 was the easiest I’ve seen yet! The corollary is that poor underlying tuning and/or sloppy linkage/non-linear response really complicates navigation tuning, and the PSC controller is particularly sensitive in that regard.

Lua-based Crash Detection and Engine Stall Mitigation
@Swebre2023 has been using a “crash detection” script for the past couple of years that senses when the vehicle comes to an unintended stop during navigation and then switches to HOLD mode and shuts the machine down until manual/physical intervention is made. We improved that quite a bit this weekend, in concert with a new script that senses RPM-bog (as in mowing tall grass/weeds) and slows travel speed until RPM recovers. I have some ideas on how to combine those features with some existing scripts for an all-inclusive mower failsafe script.

Lua-based RTK Fix Assurance
I think all of us are now running rover-MinFixType.lua to avoid continuing an AUTO mission without RTK Fixed status. Highly recommend it. I may incorporate this into the aforementioned failsafe script in the future.

Obstacle Detect/Avoid Discussion
All of us present have struggled with this one! Affordable LIDARs seem to be useless in bright sunlight. Alternatives certainly exist (mmWave radar, for example), but none of us have landed on a system we can reliably use. @Swebre2023 suggested hacking some automotive parking (ultrasonic) sensors for use with ArduPilot, and I’ve already ordered some to try. At a minimum, we agreed that sense and stop is the low bar to clear in the immediate future. Native simple avoidance already provides enough functionality to get there, we just need a robust hardware solution. Later, we can explore active avoidance via BendyRuler and/or custom/scripted behavior.

Onboard Ethernet Demo
We used my CUAV V6X and the NET* parameters to create a MAVLink connection to Mission Planner over LAN (UDP). It worked perfectly, and transfer speeds (specifically, mission upload/download) were impressive!

A couple of us will be taking this idea forward using HaLow point-to-point hardware as shown by @ronzika. @Swebre2023 already uses some higher gain cellular antennas (like these) for his SiK radio telemetry system that may prove useful for HaLow hardware.

Maybe onboard Ethernet could be used for a rather direct NTRIP connection, too!

DataGNSS HED-10L Demo
@datagnss is a bit new to the ArduPilot scene and offers some quite inexpensive RTK-capable GNSS hardware. I have a dual antenna evaluation unit that is not yet supported in ArduPilot firmware, but observation of performance via USB connection to their own software shows promise!

Many thanks to all who traveled to attend, and of course, huge gratitude for @Swebre2023’s unmatched hospitality!

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Sounds like a great time was had by all that made it, and the community has a a lot to build upon and contribute to in the months ahead. Thanks to all those that made it happen and took the time to write up some of the findings progress made!

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Ah man I missed this again. Was planning to attend this year.