Bad QAUTOTUNE on pitch

@Leonardthall Leonard, on my z84 TVBS I used QAUTOTUNE successfully to tune the roll, and got a good tune:

but the next session tuning pitch completed successfully but has , in my opinion, a very bad tune:

why did this occur? what should I do get a better QAUTOTUNE on pitch?
here is the log file for that pitch tuning flight:https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lkamkskvjmrtmi/2020-10-23%2008-55-43_pitchtune.bin?dl=0

Qautotune cant deal with the slower response you get from tilting motors. The ideal PIDs for such a setup are quite different from those of a equivalent ‚Äėcopter‚Äô, so Qautotune struggles. Roll works well because a TVBS is essentially a copter in roll.

Maybe warnings in the wiki are warranted? so manual tune Pitch I guess
I also found that the wiki does not warn that the loose loiter in QAUTOTUNE only is there for roll and pitch

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@iampete SO there was a warning in the wiki…kinda buried though…I have made it stand out in several places (PR3098)…so today I hand tuned pitch as best I could…with PID values and the angle P…its still not very good…stable,but on the verge of wiggling in both P and D…ANGLE_P does not seem to have a big effect…decided to keep it at default of 4.5…there seems to be a big lag from stick demanded pitch angle to angle achieved…do I need to mess with Q_A_RAT_PIT_FF? seems that it might need to be increased from default of 0.2 to something higher…
I think we need a tuning guide for tailsitters…

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Yeah, Tailsitters are hard to tune, Tridge likes using FF on them, I tend not to.