thanks to an RCG post by @Krazyman , I was reminded that I had been doing TVBS conversions for so long where having the prop disk shadowed by the wing is irrelevant, in a tilt tri it is critical…so I printed an extension to move the prop disk out from the wing shadow…immense change…now hovers at 25A instead of 45A with a hover throttle of 21% instead of 55%…also allowed me to move the rear motor back (it should be 2x the distance from CG that the front motors are,
to have all motors producing the same hover thrust) which allowed me to ditch a 1oz tail weight to get CG…I had started from my TBVS mounts and forgot about wing shadowing…tip of the hat to James for reminding me