Unable to tune rates properly

Hello,

I attempted to tune a quadcopter with the following configuration:

System Details:

  • Motor-to-motor distance: 875 mm

  • Motors: T-Motor 320KV Anti-Gravity

  • ESC: T-Motor Flame 60A

  • Battery: GenX 6S 30Ah

  • All-Up Weight (AUW): ~8 kgs

  • Propeller: 22×6.6 T-Motor propeller

After completing the setup and calibration process, I applied the initial tuning parameters from the Mission Planner setup page.

With the default PID parameters, I performed a test flight.

  • In Stabilize mode, the drone flew without any oscillations.

  • However, in Alt-Hold mode, oscillations were observed after providing Full stick input.

I then applied a notch filter and proceeded with AutoTune, which resulted in the following PID values:

Pitch:

  • P: 0.152

  • I: 0.152

  • D: 0.008

  • Angle P: 8.5

Roll:

  • P: 0.152

  • I: 0.152

  • D: 0.008

  • Angle P: 8.3

After AutoTune, I conducted another test flight:

  • In Stabilize mode, the drone flew normally.

  • In Alt-Hold mode, even with mild stick input, the drone began to oscillate aggressively.

I then reverted to the default parameters and attempted tuning using the Lua-based Quick Tune script.

The following rate parameters were obtained:

Pitch:

  • P: 0.3303724

  • I: 0.3303724

  • D: 0.01451355

Roll:

  • P: 0.3203593

  • I: 0.3203593

  • D: 0.0141737

After Quick Tune, I performed another test flight:

  • In Stabilize mode, the drone flew well.

  • However, in Alt-Hold mode, oscillations were again observed after giving full stick input.

Question:

How should I proceed with the tuning process from here? I would appreciate guidance on the next steps to continue tuning and resolve the oscillation observed in Alt-Hold mode.

PFA: Flight Log and Video

Those are the typical symptoms of incorrect notch filter settings and/or hardware issues causing high vibrations.

How stiff is your frame?

Hello amilcarlucas,

Regarding the frame, the quadcopter uses carbon tube arms mounted between two carbon plates. The frame and arms appear to be structurally stiff, and no flexing or free movement was observed.

and Regarding notch filter PFA: image.

This seems like the one I’ve been answering over on CubePilot. I’ve provided enough detailed info and detailed the next steps.

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I will go through the steps you suggested and test them on my side. At the same time, I’m also hoping to hear if anyone else in the community might have experienced something similar or has additional insights, just to get a second perspective as well.

Your input has already been very helpful, and I’ll share the results after trying the recommended steps.

Thanks again for the support.

You mean very high levels of vibration that need to be addressed before further tuning can be done? Sure, we see that all the time…

Hi @dkemxr ,

Drone as Hard mounted Autopilot, and i don’t have any room to install any vibration damper or structure modification..!
Is there any other method to eliminate or composite, vibration from software side..!

No. Software does not reduce mechanical vibration unless the tune is so bad that the craft is in oscillation.
Suggest you follow whatever advice @xfacta provided previously.

Out of curiosity what Flight Controller is that? Never heard of it, or at least what the firmware, which is a year old, is calling it.