S500 flipped over on take-off at the first flight

Dear Sirs,
While trying to take off with S500 Copter at its first flight, it was always flipped over.
The S500;
We have checked the following items:

  • TX calibration,
  • ESC calibration,
  • Motor sequence and direction, and
  • propeller driection.
  • Flight mode: Stabilize
    They were OK.
    And we followed the instructions of initial aircraft tune to educe all the following parameters by 50%:
  • ATC_RAT_PIT_P
  • ATC_RAT_PIT_I
  • ATC_RAT_PIT_D
  • ATC_RAT_RLL_P
  • ATC_RAT_RLL_I
  • ATC_RAT_RLL_D
    It was always flipped over and was over toward to right.
    Here is the video:https://youtu.be/2PFLni_OZho
    ***We need your kindly help.
    S500
    Frame:S500
    Motor: U3508 Kv550
    propeller:APC 1238
    ESC: HobbyWing 40A
    Pixhawk 6C mini(4.5) w/ GPS

Welcome to the community @KenPFS

check your motor directions again.
It’s A B C D, not 1 2 3 4

And you should use ArduPilot Methodic Configurator to help you.

Dear amilcarlucas,

Thank you for your kindly help.

Amilcar Lucas via ArduPilot Discourse <noreply@ardupilot.org> 於 2024年8月26日 週一 下午9:44寫道:

I have calibrated the TX and ESC. The direction and sequence of motors were correct. However, the motor will not run until throttle was 20% in motor test process. Is that too high?

Post a .zip file with the files from the vehicle configuration directory created by the ArduPilot Methodic Configurator.
20% is too high for some ESCs but might be correct for some others. Hard to tell without the .zip file

Thank your kindly help.

Dear Sirs,
I have not used Ardupilot Methodic Configurator. But I found something interested.
The manufacturer of ESC told me that the PWM frequence of ESC is from 50~500hz. Have I changed the output PWM max & min to 50 & 500?

Sincerely,
Ken

No, PWM “frequency” should rather be called repetition frequency.

I would strongly recommend you use Methodic Configurator.

The video shows classic case of motors not configured properly, drone doesn’t fly issue.

Don’t baby the throttle, give it a spurt to get it off the ground. If it still flips then the Motor order or direction is wrong, props on wrong, or the Flight Controller Orientation is not set right.

Do not change the output PWM min and max parameters. 1000 and 2000 are correct.

50 and 500 is incorrect and will not work.

At least it is extremely unlikely to make the drone crash :grin:

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Thank for your patience & professional advice.

Thank for your kindly help.

I am figuring out how to use ArduPilot Methodic Configurator. Could I give you my parameter file of MissionPlanner? Did it work?

Thank for your help.

test1.zip (5.1 KB)

When in doubt, ask specific questions.

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Dear Sir,
Here are 2 questions:

  1. I can not change the value to -1. Why?

  2. I don’t know which item need changed? I have no ideas.

    The transmitter:Spectrum DX/DSM2
    The receiver: F701/DSM2
    The receiver is connected with FC by SBus.
    The flight mode is Stabilize, AltHold, and RTL.

Thanks for your patience.

ArduPilot Methodic configurator detected that your board has a heater
If your board has a heater you should use it to get better results from the IMU, that is the reason it has a heater in the first place.
ArduPilot Methodic configurator configures the temperature automatically to 45 deg for you
Setting it to -1 would be a mistake and the software is not allowing you to make that mistake

You need to read the Documentation linked above the parameter table in the “05_remote_controller.param Documentation” area. Click on the blue texts

There are situations where you may want to disable the heater. For example having PLA elements nearby.

In those situations, un-tick the “upload” checkbox for the respective parameters and upload all others.
In the next page, use the “Add” button to add the parameter and give it the value you want.

Thanks you for your guidance.