Motor shut off during hover on multiple flights

I’m getting sudden mid-air power loss on my VTOL in QLoiter. Motors stop and it falls on its nose. Has happened twice with virtually the same logs.

After 60-75s of hover (~27–30A total), all lift motors stop within 0.2 seconds. FC stays on and logs data, no error messages. Lifting motor RCOUs jump up as current drops, so FC tries to keep flying.

Setup: AOS 2807 1400KV, 7x4.2 props, SpeedyBee F405 Wing, F405 mini 35A 4-in-1 ESC (BLHeli_S, no telemetry), 6S2P pack, XT60 and 14 AWG between FC and ESC.

Same issue happened on 6x4.2 props with XT30 and 16AWG between FC and ESC, hence the upgrade to XT 60 and 16 awg. Temps using IR thermometer: ESC and XT60 both at ~48C 1 minute after power off, motors ~60C 2 minutes after. Mag readings precise within ~35 milliGauss and accurate within ~50.

No error messages, no signs of reboot or failsafe.

Any ideas on possible causes? Thanks

I also realized after resetting my params when ai changed motors, I forgot to change Q_M_PWM_TYPE to 6 from 0 for dshot 600.

Is that likely to be the issue causing power loss to <1A in hover?

what is strange is when Q_M_PWM_TYPE was 0, i was still hearing the three ascending beeps on power on for the esc and motors plus the two beeps signaling esc was ready. I had the following params before: SERVO_BLH_OTYPE = 6 for dshot 600 on all motors SERVO_BLH_MASK = 124 for enabling dshot on

  • s3 throttle pusher motor
  • s4 to s7 lifting motors

SERVO_DSHOT_ESC =2 to stop lifting motor pulsing.

  1. The motors were able to fly relatively normally for over a minute on both of my power loss crashes. Is this because the pwm pulse signal was ok for that long?

Answered in discord. It’s either a heat or voltage issue. If the parameters are good enough that the motors are flying but then they all stop the problem is most likely with the ESC, or maybe the power to the ESC.

Post a log of the incident. .bin

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Thanks @Allister. I have a backup ESC in case

I’ve done preliminary tied down bench testing with props on for 10+s at 20A+ total, close to the hover current needed @23V. No motors are running hotter than expected, but the rear are having to work harder. Probably because the Cg is ~20mm forward of the thrust centerline.

Will rebalance Cg tomorrow morning and retry for 30 seconds, then 90 seconds or longer to see if I have the current cliff issue again.

Log from incident:

I was able to replicate the current cliff with about 40 seconds of 27A+ tied down load testing.

Also the ESC seemed to reboot afterwards because I heard the dshot arming tones again.

Will swap the motor signal wires to see if changing the hotter C4 motor signal causes the same issue.

Probably also ordering a new ESC, this time with Bl Heli_32 and telemetry logging

Overheat. It’s probably the temperature cut-off, or something in the ESC is cooked.

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It looks more and more like the ESC is the issue. Swapping esc signal wires and corresponding servox_function still caused the cutoff.

Will replace and hope that solves it. Thanks for your help!

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