Manual Forward Throttle in VTOL Modes not doing anything. (209)

Hi.
Ive set RC6 to 209. Set Q_FWD_MANTHR_MAX to 70
The FWD thrust motor is working ok in manual mode. RC6 is showing normal movement.
Q_VFWD_GAIN is at zero but I understand it is no longer used?
Q_FWD_THR_GAIN is at 3.
Also I was expecting the FWD motor to assist with position holding when the nose-down exceeds a set amount. This also is not happening.

Any ideas why there is no motor action?
Thanks

Perhaps there was no windhold motor because of Q_VFWD_ALT?
Does this parameter also disable Manual FWD thrust (209)?

So after changing Q_VFWD_ALT to just 1m I am now getting the thrust motor assisting with position holding in the hover, however the RC6 (209) channel is still doing nothing.
Any advice please?