Looks for vertical rate and/or change of position and/or 90% throttle then flicks to the flying state
Currently it flicks into the flying state
I-term build up while we wait for the throttle to come up and the throttle ramp depends on pid tune
Whatâs the change look like to a user?
Auto-takeoff or guided takeoff?
Allows user to define throttle ramp up
1 second to ramp up
2 second slew from minimum to maximum
But takeoff is at 50% for most users
Hover throttle at 15%? 0.3s to takeoff
Shouldnât this be be time-to-hover-throttle instead?
Might be unknown / based on payload
This is simpler - one number, consider it to be aggressiveness
Slew rate 1 is full rate
Copters donât do percentages
Planes do percentages
Copters do + or - 1
From chat:
[10:01 AM] Peter Hall: I agree with Leonard.
[10:02 AM] Peter Hall: You donât want it changing based on hover throttle learning.
[10:05 AM] Henry Wurzburg: TKOFF_THR_SLEW: Takeoff throttle slew rate
This parameter sets the slew rate for the throttle during auto takeoff. When this is zero the THR_SLEWRATE parameter is used during takeoff. For rolling takeoffs it can be a good idea to set a lower slewrate for takeoff to give a slower acceleration which can improve ground steering control. The value is a percentage throttle change per second, so a value of 20 means to advance the throttle over 5 seconds on takeoff. Values below 20 are not recommended as they may cause the plane to try to climb out with too little throttle. A value of -1 means no limit on slew rate in takeoff.
[10:06 AM] Henry Wurzburg: ATC_SLEW_YAW: Yaw target slew rate
[10:06 AM] Henry Wurzburg: cdeg per second
[10:07 AM] Henry Wurzburg: H_RSC_SLEWRATE: Throttle Slew Rate
This controls the maximum rate at which the throttle output (HeliRSC servo) can change, as a percentage per second. A value of 100 means the throttle can change over its full range in one second. A value of zero gives unlimited slew rate.
Increment Range
10 0 to 500
[10:07 AM] Peter Hall: I would vote spool time to match what we have in AP_Motos.
[10:08 AM] BillGeyer: Heliâs donât count in this case. I havenât kept up
[10:08 AM] BillGeyer: plus I donât know anyone that uses that parameter
[10:10 AM] timtuxworth: Agreed - I find the slew rate percentage on plane confusing, I have to âthinkâ when Iâm trying to figure out what to set it to.
Tridge wants to discuss parameter naming and particular slew rate naming with Randy
Think of this as a pilot moving the throttle stick up at a particular rate and waiting for the vehicle to take off
Takeoff time is dependent on payload and your i-term ramp up time
Auto takes into account jerk rate and other psc parameters
Low required hover throttle means faster takeoff than currently, probably
This bothers tridge
Bill really likes the i-term not building up
Tridge does too, itâs a presentation-to-user thing
Leonard will be limiting hover throttleâs impact
Removing from PID loops
Only place for hover throttle is for error detection
Problem with hover throttle is that itâs very difficult to detect it in auto flight because there si not place in auto flight where you are able to establish a measure of over throttle because you are in dynamic flight (hovering or transitioning)
Quite unusual for an auto flight o sit there and hover
Variable payloads
Hybrids, quadplanes
Taking off heavy, landing light
Full fuel load different
Same witty hybrids and petrol copters
Value in helping detect problems but very poorly defined parameter