Thanks! Will check all these tonight
worked like a charm! compass is very acurate now! i will test fly somewhere this week and let u know how loiter works now!
Outstanding! Just start out low and slow but make sure to give it that burst to get off the ground.
Don’t ease into the acceleration…it will tump over for sure.
Did some low altitude testing in the garden and maybe its my imagination, but it feels more stable. I also added my gimball and noticed that because off the extra weight i need to give it much more throttle to get airborne (as suspected off course 
) , but it works really good, so happy face here. I will get back when i tested it more in an open field.
Great to hear!!! and welcome to the world of tinkering 
Tested in a large field last evening, works like a charm!!! Thanks a lot. Loiter is much more stable, it still moves a little bit, but that might be because i didnt fly in auto tune yet as it will not do anything when i hold the arm position for 20 seconds…i will get in to that when i have more time, but it stays in one place more or less in loiter so i am very happy!!
That is AutoTrim - and per advice of others, stay away from that.
You can achieve the same results with a very good accelerometer calibration using the beer bottle method or a carpenter square.
The real AutoTune you are looking for requires you to set a flight mode for AltHold (Altitude Hold) and set one of the POTs to have AutoTune activate when the POT you selected reaches it’s high value.
In a HUGE area, go up about 25 feet, Switch to alt hold, make sure the craft is relatively stable then switch on the select POT.
Watch the dance!
If the craft drifts away, pull it back to you and Auto Tune will resume.
Roll first then pitch.
The craft will just hang there when the AutoTune is finished.
If for some reason AutoTune does not restart after pulling the craft back, try adjusting the altitude but keep your Alt Hold switch active.
OK, good to know not to use autotrim. I found out in mission planner that there is a flightmode called autotune, is that the same? I programmed it on a position of my flight mode switch…maybe I will try it today but not sure if I have time.
What exactly can I expect? Will it move around a bit by itself to measure the “reaction” to a certain input?
Can you explain the beerbottle method 
? Is this just placing my quad on a beerbottle to balance it???
Here is a full explanation to AutoTune - how to setup, perform and what to expect:
And here is some reading on the Beer Bottle Calibration method:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2662147&highlight=Beer+bottle+calibration#post34748197
Ton of info here on all APM based Flight Controllers:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2112759
So, when you grow out of your craft and start building, so long as you use APM2.6, 2.8, PixHawk, PixRacer and next month they say…PixHawk2…you have tech support from them even though the title of the thread is CX-20.
And again…thanks a lot! Been flying this afternoon, but for now I only have a 6 channel tx…I already hacked it to 10 channels but I have to assemble a ibus to ppm converter using an arduino. As I am nowhere near capable of programming an arduino I have to wait with it till a friend of mine has some time. So as soon as I have that I will be auto tuning. But for now I have a lot to read 
If you are really REALLY going to get into this hobby, I highly recommend the following with a PPM converter:
This has better range and WHEN you upgrade flight controllers, you can pull telemetry to the controller.
Once you get a different flight controller (PixHawk) you will not need the PPM converter.
I took the long way around and started with a Turnigy 9X transmitter setup.
I then got the Smartieparts.com upgrade that allows me to program and customize the Tx with firmware from the Open RC projects.
Lets me do stupid things, like this:
https://youtu.be/P0uEebFaPfA
Mod links are in the description.
But then after that video, I got the FrSky XJT transmitter module and X8R 16ch receiver.
Before, when I do a construction survey, I would rely on the auto mission failsafe to continue the mission.
I would have LOS every time I ran it and the max distance was just under 1000feet (300m)
With the FrSky setup, I not only maintain Tx/Rx contact for the survey missions, I also remained in contact for this:
Total one way distance - 2,800feet (855m)
And the RSSI radio strength meter never dropped below 55 meaning a good/fair connection.
You can go shopping for the best value but remember, you want the Tx/ X8R Rx combo.
Looks pretty awesome 
… For now I am all right with my flysky, but if I ever need another one I already know what to buy 
I have to say, the RSSI part is what I am really missing on the flysky, as I am from an era where we were using 27mhz tx/RX combo’s with absolutely nothing that even sounded like failsafe 
so I am scared all the time that I lose signal, but on the other hand, today I found out that my failsafe works perfect so I think I can ease up a little and be all bit less scared for that
Hi pmshop, as you were of great help on this topic, i want to ask you if you know anything about the topic of my latest struggle
You can find it here: PX4FLOW Smart Camera APM2.8
thanks in advance!!
You are quite welcome.
However, I never used a flow sensor so I cannot advise.
Hope you find the answer soon!
Thnx!! I found it cheap so thought, Lets try it. I think the one they sent me is for a pixhawk (i am thinking of buying one, just to see the difference) so i am now emailing with the supplier…
If it is what I think it is, I got one too - cheap. So cheap it was incomplete and useless by itself.
Look at Banggood for the PixHawk - $60 USD
Haha thats what i thought, but it does work when i connect it to mission planner directly with USB. I just think that the APM does not support it on the I2C port. Because all the wiring diagrams use the pins next to the gimball connection…
Do you now what is better on the pixhawk in comparison to the APM?
I know it has got a 32bit CPU and all, but how would I experience the differences?
everything - I went Pix after APM for 6 months.
It is awesome!
Haha thans clear than
I will start shopping this weekend 
, along with the parts for the 250 quad i want to build with a naze32 full
Thanks for the quick response! But i think you are mixing up FC’s. I have
an apm 2.8, there is a blue led for GPS and a red one for arm state. The
beeps can only be one pitch on this board. There are 3 short ones and 1
long one…i am suspecting something with the GPS, beacause when i engage
the loiter flightmode it starts to drift away, and the althold mode works
fine. So now I programmed positionhold on one switch and will try that
later this week.